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New York State Oral History Project Interview

"Conversations With and About Mike"


NARRATOR: Michael W. Kirst
INTERVIEW DATE: November 19, 2013
INTERVIEW LOCATION: Palo Alto, California
INTERVIEW LENGTH: Approximately 2 Hours, 15 Minutes

Overview: New York State Archives States’ Impact on Federal Education Policy Project (SIFEPP)
While U.S. education policy is widely discussed and often well documented, the impact of states on that policy receives much less attention. In response, SIFEPP is creating a continually growing public resource on the role of states in shaping pre-K–12 federal education policy since the mid-twentieth century.

This project is a national initiative led by the New York State Archives and funded by The New York Community Trust – Wallace Foundation Special Projects Fund.

The New York State Archives is part of the Office of Cultural Education, an office of the New York State Education Department.

Editor’s Note: The Appendix for “Conversations With and About Mike” contains transcripts for the recorded audio and video clips. To view the Audio Transcripts go to this page >


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About the Project

The purpose of this biography project is to make a fascinating man’s life and accomplishments come alive. Dr. Michael W. Kirst, while recognized in influential academic and policy circles, is generally unknown to those most actively engaged in American education in the trenches of the nation’s classrooms and local boardrooms, including teachers, principals, and school district leaders.

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About the Author

Dick Jung first met Dr. Michael W. Kirst four decades ago. Mike, then Professor in the Schools of Education and Business, was completing his first year as President of California’s State Board of Education. During Jerry Brown’s first term as Governor, as Mike tacked between Palo Alto and Sacramento, Dick served as the Teaching Assistant for Mike’s Stanford “Politics of Education” course.

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About the Team

Dick is supported by a project team of content, digital research, and online experts that includes a senior education policy reviewer, a digital archives manager, and a website and multimedia design coordinator.

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